Tuning Questions
1.
When should I have my piano tuned
and why?
Anytime the piano is in
an environment that changes
with the seasons, the piano
soundboard will react the
same unless the piano is
humidity controlled at 42%
year round. In Ohio,
pianos are going to react to
four seasons so the best
practices is a piano tuning
during the seasonal change
from Winter to Spring (e.g.
late March, April, May, or
early June) and from Summer
to Fall (e.g. late
September, October,
November, or early
December). In July and
August the humidity is
usually above 52% causing
pitch to change sharp and
the opposite occurs in
January and February when
humidity drops usually below
32% out of doors causing
pitch to change flat.
Pitch changes as the
soundboard made of solid
spruce or laminated spruce
wood reacts to the humidity
in the environment. It
is best practices to keep
the piano away from the
outside walls and from heat
or water sources inside
where the piano is located.
2. How much does a
regular piano tuning cost
per hour in the United
States?
According to a recent
survey tuning prices vary
between $11.61 per hour (or
less) for the lowest 10% of
tuners who have less than
five years of experience to
as much as $54 per hour for
the top 10% of piano tuners
with twenty years
of experience or more tuning
pianos in the United States.
Typically tuners work
independently so the cost to
tune a piano increases to
cover the cost of
transportation, fuel,
insurance, payroll taxes,
cost of living
expenses, plus other
considerations such as
geographical areas served,
market demand, and whether
or not the piano will need a
pitch raise before
attempting to fine tune a
piano. The average
piano tuning price seems to
be a flat rate of $75 to
$162 in the United States.
Top piano tuners may charge
more than $52 per hour for a
concert piano tuning
including wait time to tune
the piano on location.
3. What happens if my piano hasn't been tuned for
many years?
A piano tuning pin will
loosen and the piano wires
begin to relax causing pitch
to go flat of the standard
musical pitch A-440 and
C-523.3 to the point extra
tunings will be necessary to
raise the pitch and
stabilize the pitch. I
attempt to raise the piano
pitch not more than 20
cents to relative pitch at
notes "A" and
"C" and may require
additional follow up piano
tuning. Some customers
prefer a follow up piano
tuning in a week, others
prefer to get on a regular
piano tuning schedule and
follow up in six months. It's an art and
a craft when tuning a piano
that hasn't been tuned for
many years.
4. What
preparation does a
professional Piano Tuner go
through to get started and
how can you help with
preparation?
The grand piano, player
piano, and vertical piano
each have lids and music
front boards or music shelfs
that require removing to
gain access to the tuning
pins. Any pictures,
books, pencils, pens, paper
clips, music sheets, lamps,
flowers, etc. need to be
removed from the lid prior
to the piano tuner arriving.
5. How is
the piano pitch checked and
what will the pitch be
adjusted to after checked?
I am professionally
trained to tune a piano by
ear. However, no
professional piano tuner is
apt to tune a piano without
a pitch fork or an
accurately calibrated
digital tuner made for use
with an acoustic piano.
It is best practices to use
a combination of both the
ear and digital tuner.
Pitch at A-440 is 440 cycles
per second. A-440 is
the A to the right of middle
C. As the pitch
changes towards the bass
section the hertz drops by
50% for each A note to the
left of A-440 and by 200%
for each A to the right of
A-440. So octave 4-A
is 220 hertz, octave 3-A is
110 hertz, octave 2-A is 55
hertz, and low note A at #1
is 27.5 hertz. The
highest note on the scale is
C at note #88. The
C-523.3 to the right of
middle C is the 5th octave,
followed by C-6 at 523.3 x
2, and C-7 last note #88 at
523.3 x 2 x 2 or 2,093.2
hertz. Normal human
hearing is between 27.5
hertz and 2,093.2 hertz.
A digital tuner takes the
guess work out of tuning the
piano by giving the piano
tuner an audio and / or
visual aid to check the
tuning by ear. The
digital tuner is an asset
when determining how far out
pitch is from the standard
musical pitch A-440 and
C-523.3. It is best
practices to incorporate
both professionally trained
piano tuning by ear and an
accurately calibrated very
high quality orchestra
digital tuner that is
designed, tested, and used
for setting pitch on A-440,
equal temperament including
4ths, 5ths, and checking
with 3rds, octaves, and
unisons of an acoustic
piano.
6. What is a complete
piano climate control
system?
The only complete piano
climate control system that
I refer my customer to is
from Dampp-Chaser. It
is best practices to invest
in the complete system to
control the humidity inside
the vertical piano or
underneath a grand piano
between the beams or behind
the piano between the beams
of a player piano. If
your environment is unstable
such you are not able to get
the humidity under control
at 42%, then pitch will
continue to fluctuate with
changes in the weather and
location of the piano
inside. For more
details go to
http://www.dampp-chaser.com
about this system and
protecting your piano from
humidity extremes.
7. Can a complete
piano climate control system
be utilized in an acoustic
piano with modern player
technolgy?
Yes. To help keep
the humidity at 42% in a
grand piano with modern
player technology installed,
it is best practices to add
a piano blanket above the
piano wires within the grand
piano. The humidity
can come through the nose
bolt openings and disperse to help
maintain constant humidity
in the bass, tenor, and
treble section of the piano.
It is best practices to have
the humidifier tank cleaned,
evaporation pads replaced,
and new sleeves over the heat
tube containing a heat
source above the humidifier
tank, plus new plastic
liner, all supplied by your
purchase of the evaporation
pads, liner, sleeve, and pad
treatment solution from Dampp-Chaser directly.
8. How can I purchase
a complete Dampp-Chaser
System for my piano?
It is best practices to
purchase the system from
authorized piano suppliers
who have an established
business relationship with
authorized Dampp-Chaser
piano tuner or technician
installers. The
complete unit is purchased
by you at cost from the
piano supplier via the piano
tuner or piano technician of
your choice. The
installation is a separate
cost. It is best
practices to have the piano
tuning approximately two
weeks after the piano
installation date to allow
time for the soundboard to
adjust to the correct
humidity conditions at 42%. It is
best practices to allow four
weeks from start to finish:
to order, install, and tune
the piano. Email
notification is the best
practice and / or phone call
for follow up.
Purchase of the complete dampp-chaser
system requires prepayment
of $210.61 for a 6GPS-50w-SB
( 6' grand piano or
smaller); $183 for a
5PS-50w-SB vertical piano
(excluding backside player
system.) Installation
is $100 for either the
vertical or grand complete
piano climate control
systems. Travel $2.25
per mile after the first 30
miles from 4914 Cooper Road,
Cincinnati, OH 45242
1-way using GPS fastest
route and rounding the the
nearest whole number. See
Rates page for piano tuning
pricing.
9. What can I do to
clean my dirty piano keys?
It is best practices to
clean dirty piano keys with
non-abrasive dish washing /
hand soap with a soft cloth
and dry.
10. Why are my keys
sluggish or slow to return?
It is best practices to
maintain a humidity
environment at 42%.
Avoid outside walls and
doors or water sources and
plants on the lid above the
piano keys.
It is best practices to
isolate the source of the
problem (e.g. swelling key
felt bushings at balance
rail or front rail pin
locations of key, wood
slivers rubbing adjacent
keys, warped keys, an out of
alignment balance rail pin
causing key to become
unlevel with adjacent keys
and incidental contact to
occur slowing key movement,
and sometimes debris between
keys), make a
recommendation (e.g. remove
key, ease key felt bushings
at balance rail and front
rail, put key into its
place, test key and if
moving freely then that
source of the problem is
solved), and if need be a referral
to a specialist if the
problem persists.
Action sluggishness due to
higher than normal humidity
conditions can cause
swelling of center pin
flange felt bushings
associated with the hammer
butt shank flange, thus
slowing the hammer return to
the hammer rest rail.
A commonly used automotive
lubricate is used on piano
center pin felt bushings
called Protek solution.
When applied directly with
use of a hipo oiler the left
soft pedal can be used to
test the effectiveness of
the applied solution.
After several movements of
the soft pedal a marked
improvement in the hammer
return to the rest position
should be observed.
Protek solution is available
from some piano suppliers.
11. Should the piano
be tuned before selling the
piano?
Yes. It is best
practices to evaluate the
piano and if need be tune
the piano to be sure the
keys are functional and
piano can be tuned safely to
pitch A-440 and C-523.3 and
stabilized on pitch. A
professional piano tuner or
technician should evaluate
the piano to be sure it can
be tuned especially older
pianos and acoustic pianos
with older player technology
installed that can obstruct
access to tuning pins and
with associated risk of
tubing breakage because of
cracking from the inside of
the neoprene tubing or other
tubing material high.
It seems the average
evaluation of a piano is $25
to $50. Ask for an
evaluation. See policy
page for Piano Evaluation
Rate.
12. How can I find out
how old my piano is by
looking at my piano?
It is best practices to
rely upon the serial number
imprinted or printed on the
wood or cast iron plate of
your piano or sometimes on
the printed label or plate.
In older upright pianos its
usually between the bass and
tenor section by the tuning
pins. In younger
pianos, its on the side of
the piano, or punched in the
wood, or on a plate.
Grand pianos will have a
serial number on the dark
lettering right capo bar of
piano, between bass and
tenor printed, sometimes
imprinted in the wood on the
soundboard, pinblock, or
under the piano. Age
is verified by using a
reliable source book from
Bob Pierce that determines
the year the piano was built by
falling within a range of serial
numbers, the piano manufacturer's name
on the piano, and model
type (e.g. spinet, console,
studio, upright, baby grand,
grand, concert grand, square
grand.) There were over
700 piano manufacturers in
the United States during the
hey day of the acoustic
piano market from the early
1900s. There are only
a handful of piano
manufacturers building
pianos in the United States
today. Most labor
intensive piano
manufacturing is produced in
Japan (e.g. Yamaha, Kawai),
China (e.g. Baldwin, Pearl
River), or South Korea (e.g.
Young Chang, Sojin),
Germany, Austria, Czech,
Russia, Mexico, else United
States (e.g. Steinway & Sons
(NY), Mason-Hamlin (MA),
Charles Walters (IN).)
13. When did the
acoustic piano market peak
in the United States?
The vertical piano market
peaked in 1978-1979 when
millions of smaller vertical
pianos called spinets and
consoles were made and sold
in the United States.
The useful life of a smaller
vertical piano such as
spinets and consoles is 50
to 60 years. It is
estimated there are millions
of smaller vertical pianos
in homes, schools, churches,
etc. throughout the United
States today, given most are
around 30 years old in 2010
or younger.
14. Do you teach piano
tuning lessons?
It is best practices to
attend a piano tuning school
that "trains" hands-on the
art and craft of tuning a
piano by ear and after
completing the professional
training, then learn how and
what a quality orchestra
digital tuner can do to help
check the pitch, set the
relative pitch, check the
equal temperament, check
octaves, unisons, and shifts
in pitch from octave to
octave. If and when a
school is established, this
information will be posted
at
http://www.cincinnatischoolof.org
as details become available.
Store details may be posted
online at
http://shop.cincinnatipiano.com
(coming soon) for ordering
tools and accessories for
piano tuners, tuning,
repairs, piano climate
control system installs.
15. Does CA Glue work
inside the piano tuning pin
hole?
Bob's referral is to one
particular product called
"Hot Stuff (Red Label)"
(product HS-4 Hot Stuff Thin
2 oz.) from
http://www.caglue.com
(Satellite City, Inc.),
which is a woodworkers
product. CA stands for
high strength, industrial
grade cyanoacrylate glues
(commonly referred to as CA
glue or super glue.)
The product hardens
immediately. The epoxy
cures when coming into
contact with the moisture in
the wood. One customer
commented that when using a
dry paper towel to wipe up
some excess drops, the
fibers were smoking.
According to the CA Glue
representative, its okay to
use the dry paper towels to
wipe off excess droppings,
but to avoid using wet paper
towels since the epoxy
speeds up its curing process
when in contact with
moisture. Customer's
who have used this product
on their own piano tuning
pin holes (top-down view),
the tuning pin resistance
improved when applying 4 to
6 drops per tuning pin hole.
Use of newspaper under the
pin plank is helpful.
Bob's opinion is that "HS-4
Hot Stuff Thin (Red Label) 2
oz bottle" in the tuning pin
holes does improve the
tuning pin resistance to
tune the piano as a short
cut before restringing the
piano. The current
price for this product is
around $10.50 plus shipping
as of August 2010 at the
site above.
FAQ last updated on
August 23, 2010 at 10:32 PM
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